Trent Reager: When I was a kid, we'd get families on vacation, and I was curious because we never took vacations. We never left. So I had these special places where I could look through the walls. Watch them.
Jim Brass: "Special places." Then the video age came, and you upgraded your little hobby, right?
Trent Reager: That was pretty cool, too. I mean, especially when the motel kind of went downhill, you know? That brought all kinds of crazy stuff. The crack whores, drunk dudes beating their wives, they ... That is a show, believe me.
Jim Brass: But even that got a little old and dull. So you spiced it up by dosing people with drսgs?
Trent Reager: A few months ago, I saw this guy out on Third, tripping on acid. He was, like, out of his mind, and it was just so, so weird. And that is when I came up with that rig for the bathroom. You have to admit, it is pretty clever.
Jim Brass: Clever? Five people are dead. One is in the hospital.
Trent Reager: Hey, I just put the gas in the car, okay? They're the ones that crashed it. Come on, you've got my tapes; you've seen 'em. That first dude hacking his legs off. Or that teacher. Oh, and the homeless guy. I mean, the dude is already a total mess, and then the lady has all those dolls! I mean, that was a gift. Or the poor Mexican guy killing his wife. Honestly, I didn't see that coming. I mean, that, that, that was awesome. What are you looking at me like that for? Come on, people go online every day to look at stuff that's just like that.
Jim Brass: But you manipulated this. You made this happen. You made these people, these innocent people, do these things.