Thomas Cromwell
(smiles) Lady Anne.
Master Cromwell. Do you... do you have a message from the King?
Thomas Cromwell
...I think we understand each other. A mutual friend- a Mr. Fish, now living in exile in Holland- has sent me a gift for you. (hands her a book)
What is it, Master Cromwell?
Thomas Cromwell
"The Obedience of the Christian Man"... by William Tyndale. It contains many good criticisms of the Papacy; you'll find it most illuminating. But, always and ever, be cautious as to whom you show this. You must know it would be accounted heresy even to possess it. And, Wolsey is still keen enough to prosecute heretics, as we are called... who embrace the true religion.
I will. And God bless you, Master Cromwell.
AWArchbishop William Warham
(concerning the bill the King intends to put before Parliament) Mr. Cromwell, this does not strike me as an attack against the abuses of the clergy (coughs) but rather, an attack upon our very faith (coughs again) and upon the faith of our ancestors!
Thomas Cromwell
(coldly) That is your judgement, Your Grace; it is not mine. Neither is it the King's.
Thomas Cromwell
Majesty, I have just heard that the Pope intends to make Reverend Fisher a cardinal. [Henry laughes coldly at this] Apparently, he has already dispatched a cardinal's hat.
Then Fisher will have to wear it upon his shoulders, for by the time it gets here, he won't have a head to put it on!
Thomas Cromwell
It is rumored that, perhaps, you have a great sympathy for the Dowager Princess Catherine of Aragon.
Thomas Cromwell
(pause) Actually, I do. I'm not heartless, whatever some people think- quite the contrary. (pause) But...I serve the King. (pause) The King intends to emplace the succession in the children he will have with Queen Anne Boleyn. A bill is to be put before Parliament- he wants to know if it will have your support. (pause, as Charles considers his position)
PPage
Sir Thomas More. (Cromwell looks up and smiles)
Thomas Cromwell
Sir Thomas. (rises)
Thomas Cromwell
Please be seated. This is- er- quite an informal occasion. (picks up a pitcher) A little ale, perhaps?
Thomas Cromwell
(smiles and shakes his head)... I'm sure we both know the object that has brought us together. It is very widely rumored, Sir Thomas, that you will refuse to take the Oath of Succession. Now, I say this to you very openly and sincerely, that I wish no harm to come to a great man who has, for years, enjoyed and deserved His Majesty's good graces. I would rather lose my own son, than to see any hurt come to you. (More smiles slightly) May I ask your opinion of the King's new marriage?
(bluntly) I have no opinion. I neither murmur at it, nor dispute upon it. I never did- never will.
Thomas Cromwell
Then, what of His Majesty's claim to supremacy over the Church of England?
(nods thoughtfully) Mmm... I was... unsure about this matter. (pause) Until I re-read His Majesty's own pamphlet, the Assertio Septum Sacramentorum. (Cromwell frowns inquiringly) In fact, I, um, have a copy of it here. (sets the pamphlet on Cromwell's desk) Of course, in the pamphlet, the King asserts the divine origin of the Papacy. The Pope's supremacy descends directly from the Rock of Saint Peter. I think you'll find His Majesty's arguments are as... persuasive and powerful now, as they were when he first wrote them.
Thomas Cromwell
... Will you take the Oath? I need hardly remind you of the consequences of not doing so.
(quietly, coldly) Mr. Secretary, I am the King's loyal subject. I say no harm, I think no harm- but I wish everybody good. And, if this be not enough to keep a man alive, in good faith- then, I long not to live. (stands to leave)
Thomas Cromwell
(exasperated) Sir Thomas. You should know that the King himself has no mind to coerce you. He simply asks that you relent- and condescend to his request that you take the Oath.
(turns back)... Mr. Cromwell, please impart to the King my utter faithfulness, truthfulness and loyalty to him. (leaves)
Thomas Cromwell
What a pleasure to have both you and your lovely wife to sup with, Your Grace.
KCKaterina Cranmer
So, tell me- you are suppressing some religious houses?
Thomas Cromwell
I am starting to, yes.
KCKaterina Cranmer
Und what else?
Thomas Cromwell
I am intending to abolish almost all the Holy Days of the Lord's service- and, during the harvest. (scoffs) These enforced holidays- they damage the country's economy, stop vital works! (the Cranmers nod in agreement) And, in fact, they also impoverish workers!
KCKaterina Cranmer
Und the priests?
TCThomas Cranmer
As far as the clergy are concerned, we mean to issue a set of injunctions, requiring them to preach the Supremacy. There will also be an injunction requiring parents and employers to teach their children and servants the Lord's Prayer, Creed and the Ten Commandments in English, rather than Latin.
Thomas Cromwell
And all clerics will be put on notice to attack the superstitious cults surrounding images and relics. They will be told it will profit more upon their souls to bestow upon the poor and the needy, what they currently waste on relics.
KCKaterina Cranmer
(shrugs, nods) That's... very good, gentlemen. (Cranmer and Cromwell smile, pleased) But, allow me to chide you. I don't think that you are going far enough, or fast enough.
Thomas Cromwell
(glances at Cranmer, surprised)... Your wife is a great radical, Thomas.
TCThomas Cranmer
She is - and, illegal. (he and Cromwell chuckle and toast) Two reasons to hide her.
KCKaterina Cranmer
(glances away, irritated) Being carried around in a box does not make you laugh.
TCThomas Cranmer
(hastily) My dear, I am sorry about that-
KCKaterina Cranmer
I'm not your dear- I'm nobody's dear. I'm a woman, und I demand equal respect for my ideas! For me, the practices of the Catholic Church are evil! The way people are kept in total ignorance und made to feel guilty about their own bodies und their own thoughts- and even worse, the idea that the rich can buy a plot in Heaven for their souls!
Thomas Cromwell
(startled) Well, I agree with you! The Catholic Church is corrupted- it's irredeemable!
KCKaterina Cranmer
Then you should smash und destroy it- utterly, totally und without pity. That is my advice to you, Mr. Cromwell. (Cromwell stares at her, intrigued; she turns back to her husband and stands up, smirking) Now, you can put me back in my box.
Thomas Cromwell
I am also preparing for an emergency session of Parliament-
TBThomas Boleyn, Earl of Wiltshire
Bah! Kings had no need of Parliament in the old days!
Thomas Cromwell
(coldly, not looking up from his paperwork) These are not the old days, my Lord.
[Thomas Cromwell is interrogating Lady Margaret Sheldon regarding Queen Anne's infidelity, and has extracted a list of her supposed lovers, save one]
Thomas Cromwell
And!? [he slams his fist on a table] AND!?
MSMargaret Sheldon
[sobbing] I saw her hugging and kissing her brother!
Thomas Cromwell
[horror-struck and disgusted] Her brother!?
[At a later interrogation of Lady Rochford]
Thomas Cromwell
Do you believe this to be true?
RLady Rochford
I believe that is true, yes. [Cromwell walks over and looks her in the eye]
Thomas Cromwell
[skeptical] You believe that your husband committed incest with the queen!?
[Lady Rochford looks at Cromwell with a sly smile. Cromwell looks surprised, then returns the smile; the pair understand each other perfectly]
[In Thomas Wyatt's cell]
Thomas Cromwell
The Queen was tried yesterday at Westminster Hall. She pleaded not guilty to all charges against her, but the evidence being overwhelming...she was sentenced to death, either by burning or decapitation according to the King's pleasure.
[fighting back tears] And her accomplices? What of us?
Thomas Cromwell
Smeaton, Brereton, Norris and George Boleyn, all guilty as charged.
Thomas, what about me? Am I to be tried too?
Thomas Cromwell
No. We found no evidence against you. You're to be released...eventually. [Cromwell leaves the cell]
[tearfully] BUT I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO'S GUILTY!
[talking to Thomas Cromwell, trying to disguise the fact he is in agony from his leg wound] I've dispatched Suffolk with the royal army. If need be, I will dispatch a second army to destroy the rebels.
Thomas Cromwell
Yes, Majesty.
Unless they disperse, and send 100 of their ringleaders to the Duke of Suffolk with halters around their necks, then he has our permission to burn and destroy all their goods, and make a fearful example of them to all our subjects.
Thomas Cromwell
Yes, Majesty.
If still they do not submit, Mr. Cromwell, then I promise the utter destruction of them, their wives and their children. Do you understand me? I will destroy them all...[he looks up and glares at Cromwell] And then I'll destroy you, Cromwell!
PPage
(startled and terrified, hastily puts the pear back) My Lord! (after a moment, Cromwell glances up at him) I- I'm sorry, Lord Cromwell, I didn't see you. I...
Thomas Cromwell
(stands) I was talking to God.
PPage
(frowns)... But, surely, Sir, you have to go to church for that?
Thomas Cromwell
(stares at him in disbelief)... Do you understand nothing of our reforms? God is not just in church, He is... everywhere. (steps toward him) We do not need priests to speak for us, we can... speak to Him ourselves- and, He will listen. There is no need for bells, and books, and candles. All you need... is your soul. (smiles momentarily) Now go away, and think. (the page starts to leave) Wait. (the page stops, Cromwell offers him the pear.)