So... Saul Goodman. Am I allowed to call you Jimmy?
Uh, Saul Goodman is my professional name, but my friends still call me Jimmy. You can, too.
Well, tell me about Saul Goodman.
What do you mean?
Well, what I mean is... If he's not Jimmy McGill, who is he? What's he about?
Hmm, well... [pause] Saul Goodman is, uh, he's the last line of defense for the little guy. You're getting sold down the river, he's a life raft. You're getting stepped on, he's a sharp stick. You got Goliath on your back, Saul's the guy with the slingshot. He's a righter of wrongs, he's a friend to the friendless. That's Saul Goodman.
Wow. [pause] Couldn't Jimmy McGill do all that?
Maybe he could, but Saul Goodman is.
I get it.
You do?
Yeah. I understand why you changed your name.
Is that right?
Hamlin Hamlin McGill did you wrong. Your name is a part of that firm, now it's tainted. We took your legacy away from you.
If you say so, Howard.
No, I've been thinking about this a lot. And you know what? We should've hired you.
Don't worry about it. That's ancient history.
You deserved a shot. And I could've given it to you... when you got barred, or when you brought us Sandpiper. Both times, I should've shown some backbone. It would've been the right thing to do.
Well, I am glad you had this cleansing moment of clarity, Howard. Good for you.
Let me be clear: I'm not interested in yesterday. I missed an opportunity with you, and I think it’s time to correct that. [pause] I'd like you to come work at HHM.
[clears his throat and sips his drink] You want me to work with you after all the shit that’s happened between us?
Well, as far as I’m concerned, that's between you and Chuck.
...Hey, look. Before you offer me a job, you might wanna call your buddy, Cliff Main. He’d have a unique perspective on employing me.
This isn’t a "spur of the moment" decision, Jimmy. I have been considering this for a while. [pause] At the scholarship committee, you spoke about that young woman.
Kristy Esposito?
Yes, Kristy. You stood up for her. And that got me thinking about judgment... and honesty. [chuckles] And when you kicked my ass last year. [shrugs] You weren't wrong. You say what you mean.
Listen, if you don't want to be surrounded by liars, Howard, you might be in the wrong profession.
Look, it’s simple for me. You’re smart, you’re scrappy. You’re a go-getter. You don’t wait for things to happen, you make them happen. HHM is growing again and could use someone like you. I could use you... Charlie Hustle.
...Howard, I–
You don’t have to answer right now. Let’s just enjoy lunch... but do me a favor. Live with it for a bit, okay?
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